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Post by jacybaby on May 17, 2012 19:03:55 GMT
Hi all
Wondering if anyone out there can help with this one? My paternal Grandmother's Grandfather was a John Lever b1853 d1913 in Ashton-under-Lyne & Stalybridge areas. I have found a possible birth record on Cheshire BMD [HAR/19/12] which gives his mother's maiden name as 'Lever' also. This is where I am stuck!
It's likely his mother was unmarried but cannot find them on the 1861 Census for Ashton-under-Lyne when John Lever would have been 8yo. Any ideas?
Many thanks
Jason
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Post by janethowarth54 on May 25, 2012 19:30:22 GMT
have found a 1861 census John Lever son born 1854 Staleybridge living with father Fredrick Brooks and mother Sarah Brooks also listed is George Brooks aged 1 month. living over darwen Lancashire. Fred was born in Dukinfield Cheshire an iron bolt maker. Sarah born Stalybridge John born Stalybridge. George born over darwen.
could be Johns mother married
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Post by jacybaby on May 26, 2012 15:42:36 GMT
Hi Jane
thanks so much I did a little digging yesterday and the same info kept coming up. Think you maybe right and John Lever was illegitimate, he remained a Lever though and never took the Brooks name so I doubt this was his biological father!
Jason
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Woody
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Post by Woody on May 27, 2012 8:31:36 GMT
Hi jacybaby
Just following through janethowarth’s information. You’ll find that Sarah Lever married Frederick Brookes at Ashton St Michael in 1857. It looks like Sarah’s parents were John Lever and Mary Whitehead who married at Mottram in Longdendale 29th August 1813. The 1841 census has several of Sarah's siblings.
By 1871 Frederick and Sarah were back in Stalybridge. Frederick Brookes died 1877 and wife Sarah a few years later in 1884.
The surprise is that in the 1851 census return there's another child, Edward born 1847 who's listed as a grandchild. His mother proves to be Sarah because he appears with her in 1861 and, like his brother John, there is no father identified on the christening record.
On the Trewren front, I’m pretty sure I now have your ancestral line back to about 1721. ‘Joseph’ was the predominant first name for males and, according to the census returns, they were virtually all Cornish miners who often switched between the minerals they mined – tin, copper, lead and ironstone.
The profitability of Cornish mineral mining began to decline noticeably from about 1870 so perhaps the most likely reason for Joseph & Grace heading this way was work - as a coal miner. At least one other of his extended family migrated to the North-East (Guiseborough and Middlesborough) around the same time.
Joseph must have died between 1871-1881 because he's on the 1871 Redruth census but Grace declares herself to be a widow by the 1881 Ashton census. If you can find Joseph's death record, you would know from the place of death whether a switch to coal mining is the likely reason for the Trewrens migrating here, or whether Grace came for some other reason after his death. I haven’t found the death - probably yet another transcription problem.
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Post by jacybaby on Jun 3, 2012 21:08:02 GMT
Woody
Thanks again and hope you had a good break? Sounds like you came back re-energised!
Jay
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