Post by bella on Oct 6, 2009 20:18:18 GMT
I guess I should have posted this first...I have a question to those of you lucky enough to have seen original records in either Lancashire or Cheshire civil offices or church records. Have you ever seen notations on civil or church records that indicated a person/family left Lancashire and emigrated to the USA? Gosh, I'd like to be lucky enough to find a notation like that for the folks I'm searching.
A few years back when I was actively working with Sicilian civil records on LDS microfilms, I would occasionally find a notation on the documents that noted that the person/family had left the village and went to the USA. Also, that if they had to send home for proof of ??birth/baptism?? for a marriage you could sometimes be lucky that the clerk had noted that on the original document too. Also a friend in County Durham England who did reciprocal genea-work for me there, saw similar notations.
This is my brick wall: I'm searching for 2 BRADLEY men, brothers or cousins, who left Lancashire circa 1840 for Pennsylvania USA. They worked as coal miners and brick makers in Pennsylvania. One of the men, John Bradley stays in Pennsylvania till his death. The other, William Bradley, returns to the Lancashire/Cheshire area between 1860 and July 1870, when as a 54y widower, marries a widow, 54y Ellen Hardman daughter of Thomas Seddon, in St. James Church Ashton-under-Lyne.
In 1871 William & Ellen Bradley are found on RG10/3667 Norbury, Hazelgrove, St. Thomas, Cheshire(?). William notes his place of birth as Little Hulton Lancashire. His Pennsylvania application for citizenship notes "born 1813 in Lancashire". He was in Pennsylvania for the 1850 & 1860 US census.
William dies 11 Feb 1880, 64y, at 142 Tame Valley, Dukinfield, which at that time is Ashton Under Lyne, Cheshire. William was intestate in the UK, and in Pennsylvania. However, his brother(??) John Bradley travels to the UK and is counted as a visitor in the 1881 census. There was a notice in John's hometown Pennsylvania newspaper that he was traveling to England to secure a fortune left by a relative.
In 1881 the widow Ellen Seddon Hardman Bradley is found RG11/3466 Alfred St, Hyde, Werneth, St. George, Cheshire.
What are the chances of finding a notation saying that John & William were leaving for the US, and perhaps something on Williams records indicating he had returned after a 25-ish year absence? What are the odds of locating a newspaper article on either William and Ellen's marriage, or William's death? Looking forward to reading your replies.
Bella
A few years back when I was actively working with Sicilian civil records on LDS microfilms, I would occasionally find a notation on the documents that noted that the person/family had left the village and went to the USA. Also, that if they had to send home for proof of ??birth/baptism?? for a marriage you could sometimes be lucky that the clerk had noted that on the original document too. Also a friend in County Durham England who did reciprocal genea-work for me there, saw similar notations.
This is my brick wall: I'm searching for 2 BRADLEY men, brothers or cousins, who left Lancashire circa 1840 for Pennsylvania USA. They worked as coal miners and brick makers in Pennsylvania. One of the men, John Bradley stays in Pennsylvania till his death. The other, William Bradley, returns to the Lancashire/Cheshire area between 1860 and July 1870, when as a 54y widower, marries a widow, 54y Ellen Hardman daughter of Thomas Seddon, in St. James Church Ashton-under-Lyne.
In 1871 William & Ellen Bradley are found on RG10/3667 Norbury, Hazelgrove, St. Thomas, Cheshire(?). William notes his place of birth as Little Hulton Lancashire. His Pennsylvania application for citizenship notes "born 1813 in Lancashire". He was in Pennsylvania for the 1850 & 1860 US census.
William dies 11 Feb 1880, 64y, at 142 Tame Valley, Dukinfield, which at that time is Ashton Under Lyne, Cheshire. William was intestate in the UK, and in Pennsylvania. However, his brother(??) John Bradley travels to the UK and is counted as a visitor in the 1881 census. There was a notice in John's hometown Pennsylvania newspaper that he was traveling to England to secure a fortune left by a relative.
In 1881 the widow Ellen Seddon Hardman Bradley is found RG11/3466 Alfred St, Hyde, Werneth, St. George, Cheshire.
What are the chances of finding a notation saying that John & William were leaving for the US, and perhaps something on Williams records indicating he had returned after a 25-ish year absence? What are the odds of locating a newspaper article on either William and Ellen's marriage, or William's death? Looking forward to reading your replies.
Bella