delsol
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Post by delsol on Feb 12, 2009 15:03:43 GMT
Hi, I am researching into my husband's family history. I have managed to trace his family back through to 1841 from the census. This shows Elisha Saxon (male) b c1801 in Stalybridge and his wife Elizabeth b 1811. Their children were Joseph b1820, Joshua b1826, Daniel b 1827 and Thomas b1834. Joshua is the son who is my husbands ancestor too. Is anyone else searching for this family? Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I could go further back in time? Thank-you
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Post by Gay J Oliver on Feb 12, 2009 16:59:55 GMT
Hello Delsol, and welcome to our Tameside Forum.
Now that you have traced the family back to the 1841 census you need to start searching for baptsim and marriage records and the first place to look is the (IGI)International Genealogical Index. There is more information about the IGI elsewhere on this website: tamesidefamilyhistory.co.uk/igi.htm
The main thing to remember about the IGI is that it is only an INDEX and is not complete. You should then go to check the entries in the original parish registers.
Using the IGI I was able to find a marriage of Elisha Saxon to Hannah Platt at Manchester Cathedral on 12th April 1819 and the baptisms of their children at Ashton St Michael's Parish Church:
Joseph 27 February 1820 Mary 11 September 1823 Joshua 1 May 1825 Sarah 1 April 1827 Daniel 8 May 1829
It seems likely that Elisha remarried to Elizabeth and that Thomas would be the child of a second marriage, but this is speculative. I will check a marriage CD I own to see if I can find evidence of a second marriage.
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Post by Gay J Oliver on Feb 12, 2009 17:28:50 GMT
After further checking it seems your Elisha married three times in all. The first to Hannah Platt in 1819.
The second to a Sarah SKIVOAN 14 November 1832 at St Mary's Manchester.
They had two children baptised at Ashton St Michael's church:
Tomas Alexander Skervin Saxon 9 November 1834 and Hannah 20 March 1836
He then marries a third time to Elizabeth Jackson (formerley Thackeray) at St Mary's Machester in 1839. It would be a good idea to get details from this last marriage certificate since it would/should give the name of Elisha's father and possibly take you a generation further back. The source for this last marriage is lancashirebmd.org.uk
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Post by Gay J Oliver on Feb 12, 2009 18:15:28 GMT
I am pretty sure that this is Sarah SKIVOAN/SKERVIN.
Sarah SKIRVING
born 7 May 1801 baptised 14 June 1801 at Denton the daughter of Alexander and Hannah Skirving
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delsol
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Post by delsol on Feb 14, 2009 14:59:00 GMT
Gosh, Thanks for the info Gay, he certainly was busy! I have the two Elizabeth but realised they must be different ones once the 1851 Census shows Ambrose Jackson as his wife's son. I couldn't find the death for the first wife Elizabeth but there is an Elizabeth SAxon in 1851age 40 b Manchester working in Bradford. Did they divorce in those days? Are you thinking that the two Elizabeths are the same person? There must have been an earlier marriage as his sons are aged 20, 15, 14 and 7 on the 1841 C yet his wife Elizabeth was only 30. This is getting very interesting! Thanks for your help Jillian
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delsol
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Post by delsol on Feb 16, 2009 10:03:49 GMT
Joshua Saxon b 1825 is my husbands ggg g'fthr so Hannah is the ancestor I needed. I will send for the Elizabeth/Elisha marriage cert as you suggst. Obviously now, my two Elizabeths are the same person and it explains why the 1851 census shows Ambrose Jackson as his wife's son and Thomas saxon only two years older as his son. I wonder where Ambrose was in1840? He didnt have much luck did he, old Elisha, as I presume his two wives died. I have found his death recorded not long after he marries Elizabeth!
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Post by Gay J Oliver on Feb 16, 2009 22:29:30 GMT
Let's hope Elisha's marriage certificate reveals some clues to go a bit further back in time. Good Luck!!
Please keep in touch to let us know the result.
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Post by pok4r on Feb 20, 2009 19:21:05 GMT
Hi, Saxon is'nt a common name, so i wonder if we have a connection. My g-g-g grandmother was Jane Byrom (nee Saxon) born abt 1804-1889, married John Byrom around 1827 in Ashton under lyne lived later in Saddleworth had 8 children, would love more detail about her and her husband come to that, cant seem to get back any further,, does this ring any bells?
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delsol
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Post by delsol on Feb 23, 2009 9:36:20 GMT
H, Lookng at your dates, any connecton mght be through the Elisha Saxon that have as he was born ab 1801 in Ashton. On the 841 census he is livng at 40 Acres Lance in Stalybridge with his 3rd wife Elizabeth. I have sent for his marriage cert which should tell us his father's name and then hopefully we can use this to identify any siblings and perhaps your Jane will be one of them. I will let you know as soon as it arrives. If you have the marriage cert for Jane Byrom we can check if the fathers have the same name/occupation.
Good luck
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Post by pok4r on Feb 25, 2009 14:52:28 GMT
Hi again, As Jane and John were married around 1829 unconfirmed, cant i assume get one, can i? not sure where they got married either, although Ashton is a strong possibility. Your certificate will i hope throw some light, i'm stuck
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Post by delsol on Feb 25, 2009 15:39:01 GMT
Hi, I'm still waiting for the cert. Because of the dates it's actually from Elisha Saxons third marriage but it should hopefully tell us his father's name etc. I was planning on visiting the Local Studies centre in Ashton armed with the info. If I do get there I'll have a look out for your names too. Have you checked the IGI indexes? Also the Cheshire BMD website has some parish records that can be accessed on the Internet - I found some of my info there. Hope this helps and I look forward to telling you more if I can.
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Post by ginger on Feb 25, 2009 23:18:22 GMT
St Georges, Stalybridge burial records have been transcribed by Mr George Clark and are on line at this website There are Saxon's buried there stg.org.uk/graverecords01.htmMaureen
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Post by delsol on Feb 26, 2009 13:19:08 GMT
Thanks Maureen, I'll take a look.
I received the marriage cert today too.
Elisha Saxon age full, a widower, cotton spinner, father Daniel Saxon a clothier. Elizabeth JAckson, full age, a widow, father John Thackeray a manufacturer. Both addresses were given as Newton Heath but they so I suppose thats where she came from as they then lived in Stalybridge on the census'. They marrried after Banns at St Mary's Church, Manchester 28th April 1869.Their witnesses were George and Emma Worthington.
Dont know if any of this info helps you Pok4r?
Talk to you all soon, jillian
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Post by pok4r on Feb 27, 2009 20:55:13 GMT
hi, As i've no idea who Janes parents were, and only that she was born 1804 in Ashton, i'm afraid your names dont mean anything, but somewhere there is a connection, wwwwhere!!
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Post by ginger on Mar 13, 2009 0:20:30 GMT
Hi delsol
This will probably not help you with your Family History and I have not much on the Saxon family as yet. I have got a page from a family bible that I think came from America originally, it is faded and hard to read all of it but I am trying to see if I can enhance it. I will put it on the photo’s page if I am successful I have a Mary Saxon marrying into OH family. She was born abt 1849 in Dukinfield and her father was a John Saxon occupation Mechanic born abt 1811 in Knott Lanes/Oldham. He married an Ann Wild in 1830 at St Michael Ashton but I think he married again in later years. Other children that I know of from the census are Betty born abt 1833 (who married a George Rhodes), Sarah born abt 1835, Nicholas born abt 1845 and Hannah born abt 1849. They are taken from the census but I expect there were more children. Next time I am at the archives I will see if I can find anything else on them
Maureen
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