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Post by dannykross on Jan 10, 2010 2:03:47 GMT
Welcome Mike Like yourself I am also a new member. My William Kenworthy left the Mossley-Ashton area in 1841 to work in the woolen mills in Delaware Co. Pennsylvania. I have not seen the Ousey name before, but will keep it in mind. There must be a connection with those mills in Penn. and this area of England. I do know that a William Buckley came to the U.S. and started a mill in Penn. Maybe he recruited and paid for passage over the pond.
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Post by Woody on Jan 12, 2010 14:40:29 GMT
Hi Mike (and Dannykross)
I did a bit of very quick Ousey research and have a couple of observations.
A Findmypast search of the 1841 census produces a comprehensive 4-page list of about 200 UK people with the second name ‘Ousey’ If this process is repeated for 1851, one observation is that the total number of potential Ousey ancestors has almost halved in the interim, although numbers have again risen to over 200 by 1881. I can’t account for this reduction - there's no obvious socio-economic reason in Saddleworth records and they can’t all have emigrated, can they ?
There are a few references to Ousey ancestors in directories and suchlike published in the 1820s. One Lancashire Directory is on-line at Google Books. It can be read, but not copied and stupidly, I didn't bookmark the URL so I can't point you straight there. If you get stuck, I'll have another look.
Apparently (pp 122), one branch of the Ousey family (Thomas Ousey) owned estate (at Ridge Hill, Stalybridge) and a mill at Heyrod (again Stalybridge). He inherited each from his father-in-law, Edmund Buckley who “…had held the estate for upwards of sixty years. A little nearer, Mossley lies”
There’s a further reference (pp 129) to Heyod Fold and to the “…elegant mansion of Messrs Ousey, with their extensive cotton works, [is] situated a little below Heyrod Fold”.
This link between the Buckley and Ousey families might be something you want to explore with dannykross
Cheers
Woody
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Post by ginger on Jan 12, 2010 23:28:57 GMT
Ousey Family There are Ousey's buried at St Georges Church, Stalybridge and they have the burials on line stg.org.uk/graverecords01.htmand the Church website stg.org.uk/index.htmlI just looked at one but there are more buried 4 Feb 1814 Robert Ousey (Church Warden) age 26 of Herod Hall Mo
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Post by Woody on Jan 13, 2010 21:07:35 GMT
Ousey Family Mike This URL should get you the directory I referred to in my earlier response. books.google.co.uk/books?id=6c0HAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Ousey+Saddleworth&cd=10#v=onepage&q=&f=falseThe other book you should look at is Samuel Hill's 'Bygone Stalybridge' (1907). There are about 35 references in there to potential Ousey ancestors and, if nothing else, you should pick up useful information from a couple of short biographies - eg Ralph Ousey and Buckley Ousey, the renowned water colourist and an eventual member of the FCA. The fastest way is probably to Google the book title and then download a free copy in PDF format. That will allow you to search it at leisure. To supplement ginger's posting, 'Bygone Stalybridge' indicates 'many family burials at thingyer Hill', more commonly known as Old St George's Church. It might also be worth looking at the 'Ousey' message board on genforum.genealogy.com/ousey/messages/3.html. The messages are old but most seem to be chasing the same information as yourself.
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Post by Woody on Jan 13, 2010 21:13:39 GMT
I see 'thingy' isn't neglecting any moderating duties in 2010. Ginger probably remembered the hazard.
You'll have to read this information backwards Mike, and then you can probably figure out the 'Thingy' function for yourself.
'Thingyer Hill' should read 'lliH rekcoC'
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Post by ginger on Jan 13, 2010 23:52:29 GMT
No Woody "thingy" still with us jogged my memory with "Bygone Stalybridge" it can be downloaded from here Mike www.archive.org/Mo
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Post by davesmum on Jan 29, 2010 20:59:09 GMT
Hi ,I don't know if I've posted this in the right place ,but I've just found this website and it looks really interesting .I've been into my family history for a few years now ,and as most of my family came from the areas you cover ,I thought that I had better join.
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Post by sandra on Jan 29, 2010 21:59:07 GMT
Hello and welcome
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Post by kaybee on Feb 1, 2010 14:42:17 GMT
I hadn't realised that I had not posted in this forum so I'll introduce myself. I'm Kath, I was born in Ashton and assumed all my ancestors were too. The only long family link are my OUSEYS the others arrived in the area from 1871 BRINDLEY PERKS CLARKE. These were my grandparents. My biggest brickwall is that I can find no record of my Great grandfather JAMES OUSEY having been born or christened. According to census returns he was born about 1854 to JOHN OUSEY and I hope SARAH GOSLING. I know that there were relatives of mine in the area in the 50s early 6os so if you are descended from LEONARD OUSEY or HARRY PEKS of Dukinfield I'd love to "meet"you. Regards Kath in a cold and snowy North Yorkshire
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Post by kaybee on Feb 1, 2010 14:44:25 GMT
Sorry my first post has a spelling mistake. It should be HARRY PERKS
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Post by Woody on Feb 3, 2010 15:15:28 GMT
Hi Kath I think I might have untangled the problem with James Ousey’s birth and christening records. It’s only a suggestion so you’ll need to check it out, but this is my reasoning. In the most likely 1861 census for his father, John Ousey (b 1811, Ashton) and wife Sarah ? Gosling (b 1828, Hazel Grove, Stockport), he’s a butcher living in Hurst Brook, Ashton under Lyne, and comes from a long line of Hurst Brook butchers. Son James is listed as born 1854 in Ashton, and there’s a daughter, Martha Ousey, born about 1851, also in Ashton. If you think about it, James’ date of birth (1854) doesn’t fit the date of John Ousey’s marriage to Sarah Gosling (1857). That record’s a bit confusing as well but I’ll come to that later. Looking at the 1851 census for both John Ousey and Sarah Gosling, they’re both unmarried. John’s living with his parents and siblings in Hurst Brook, and Sarah Gosling (Goslin) is lodging with a couple named ‘Meston’ in Water Street which is also in Hurst Brook. Sarah has a daughter, Martha, who is 10 months old. I think one solution to your ‘James Ousey’ puzzle could be that his parents weren’t married at the time of his birth, but had done the deed by the time the 1861 census came round. As was common at the time, Martha and James had probably just assumed the second name 'Ousey' when their mother married. If you then check the BMD records, there are births in the right years for both Martha and James GOSLING, each registered at Hartshead – which would be right for Hurst Brook. You'll get the relevant certificate information at www.cheshirebmd.org.ukTurning to the records for John Ousey’s marriage to Sarah Gosling, Cheshire BMD has an asterisk against it which usually indicates a change of name at some point previously, most often due to the woman entering a second marriage. Initially, I thought that James was a child of Sarah’s first marriage and that the most likley solution was that his birth would have been registered in his father’s name. I checked out the various possibilities and that proved not to be the case. That’s because, very unusually, the asterisk relates to John Ousey himself. Further, his names are transcribed differently in the Free BMD and Cheshire BMD listings. In Cheshire BMD he is ‘Norcliffe, John O’; in Free BMD he is ‘ Norcliffe, John Onsey’. This intrigued me so I used the IGI to chase back John Ousey’s line. I found that his mother’s maiden name is Jane ‘Norcliffe’, born Darton, Barnsley. I kept copies of the records I found if you want them. So, one puzzle may well have been resolved, Kath, but I’m afraid I might have given you another one that will probably last longer than the Yorkshire snow ! Such is life.
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Post by nicola on Feb 3, 2010 16:59:52 GMT
Hi my name is nicola and my family have recently moved into carrbrook having lived in stalybridge all our lives we now find ourselves in a part of stalybridge which we know hardly anything about. We have moved into Moorgate Hamlet the conservation area off school lane in carrbrook and are looking for photos of how the farm house in particular used to look before they have been renovated. If anyone out there has or knows where i can get such photos from please get in touch i would be most grateful. Thanks. Nik
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Post by ginger on Feb 3, 2010 20:12:53 GMT
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Post by carole on Mar 10, 2010 12:00:04 GMT
Hello My name is Carole, I originally came from Yorkshire - now live in Australia. I began my family tree just over a year ago and discovered my great grandparents came from Ashton Under Lyne area. They moved to Yorkshire between 1901 and 1911. The surnames I'm interested in for this area are: Cross, Carson and Howard. I'm sure the list will expand as I progress further back. Regards Carole
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Post by sandra on Mar 10, 2010 14:03:59 GMT
Welcome Carole
If you post a little more information with some dates etc I'm sure someone will be able to help
Sandra
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